Saturday, 8 May 2021

Complete Guide to Make Profit from a VPS in 2021

I have seen hell lot of threads asking "How to earn from vps" or "How to make profit from vps", so here I post all the methods to make some money from a VPS. Remember that you can not just make $10+ a day, unless you have a lot of VPS or know the right methodology. This thread is a 'little bit' targeted to new-ish users. This thread will cover all types of methods. This will also be updated periodically. Please try the methods for a while and then see the results. You have to work to gain something. Using a mixture of this will be fruitful in the long term. Also, you should understand that a VPS is a resource, inherently useless, unless you know what to do with it, which is listed down below.


The first thing to do is to buy a VPS from a legit seller. I highly suggest to chose ProfitServer VPS. They cost $5 for Windows , a 100% Reliable (No Downtime), Renewable (So Less Time Investment Monthly), No SCAM Probability, Bulk Availability, Fully Controllable (Control Panel), High Specifications (No Lag), Sufficient Bandwidth and totally fit for your use plus long term. A lot of people use it though they may not reveal they do. People also resell the VPS elsewhere. You can buy trial VPS if you have less money to start or you only want to test on how to work with VPS. There are a lot of sites too which are offering discount 'Legit' VPS. So keep looking the 'Latest Threads' for new opportunities. Always look for the Trade with Caution sign and reputation before trading.

Don't look for Windows everywhere, Linux is a powerful operating system and in a few steps, you can set up a GUI and run most things that Windows can for a fraction of the cost of a Windows VPS. For a reliable Linux VPS, you can check out Linode, you can host a website or run traffic exchanges for free for 4 months via this link to get $20 to spend. A similar offering is that of DigitalOcean, with $100 in free credits to spend over 60 days.

Where to buy VPS?
  • TBN (from $2, You will most likely get trial VPS if you spend less.)
  • ProfitServer (from $5, You can choose only Linux in the lowest plan.)
  • DigitalOcean (from $5, You will get $100 as free credit after sign up. )
The Well Known Method: PTP (Paid to Promote)

PTP is the most used method to earn. You earn by running traffic exchange on your VPS day and night and than promote a special link.
I will not elaborate on it as many PTP die soon, so it gets harder to keep the guide updated.
PTP with rate of $2/1000 impressions are also high paying.
It is not recommended as you can rather host a website and put ads on it.


Selling Accounts

You can keep running HitLeap or OTOHits on your VPS. They both provide High Quality views. You can make a couple of accounts, earn minutes/points on them and sell them here, another forum, FiverrSeoclerks etc. You can do this with any traffic exchange. The sites listed above are merely examples.

Options:

Selling/Using Traffic

Instead of selling whole accounts, you can just earn minutes/points on one account. After you accumulate a lot of points then you can sell views/traffic here on TBN or another forum, FiverrSeoclerks etc. $0.3/1000 views is the rate starting price but it is all up to your wish and what price the competition is selling at.

You can also use some of the traffic to send views to your own site. For Example, I use 
A-Ads on one of my sites which receives decent traffic. But I also send some traffic from myself. It pays in BTC per day and you don't even need to sign up. So I earn 0.0001-0.01 BTC everyday. Though it isn't my main income, it is a good method for passive earning. I can then use that spare BTC to buy more VPS and earn more multiplying my earnings exponentially.

Traffic for YouTube can also be used but most traffic exchanges fail in that arena. WebSyndic though works better. More on that later.

Options:

Renting resources

You can run a software which utilize your idle system resources and gives you money. A lot of VPS Providers prohibit it but you can use it. I recommend not to store your personal data in it as someone can get access to it.

Running 1 VPS may not profit that much but running 25+ VPS is very profitable when you combine the above methods with it and run simultaneously.


Reselling

This is only profitable if you buy VPS in bulk. Suppose you bought a VPS for $4 for 1 month, you can sell it for $5 for 20 days (If its worth It) and easily make back the money you invested. After 20 days, you can use it for yourself by using it for any of the methods listed here. You can resell ProfitServer VPS for a tad bit higher price here on TBN, any forum, personal website (Recommended) or anywhere else. They are cheap, so you have a scope for more profit. You may also search for a small scale company or startup who needs VPS's and you may get a contract with them thus leaving you with great profits which you can either spend or buy more VPS.

Maybe you got your hands on a method for trial VPS like Amazon and Azure, you can sell them for short duration here if you aren't sure of their legitimacy or how long they will last.

Options:

Hosting

You can either host your own site or sell someone hosting on your server. This is really done only by the people who have good knowledge of languages (Java, HTML, NodeJS) and technology. It would not directly profit you, but you can show ads on your site (If it is popular enough) or you can sell hosting (If you have enough resources).
You can host faucets and display ads from from A-Ads and other Bitcoin Advertising Networks. Thus, you earn in BTC and spend BTC with an increasing profit with complete anonymity.


Botting

You can run different types of bots of different types of sites. The benefit of these is that you can run a lot of bots in the background while performing other things. a lot of good bots are available here on TBN. Again, this will not directly profit you. You can run traffic exchanges with these bots .

The most easy method to automate sites like GPT and PPC is to use 
IMacros. Its very easy to use and learn and is noob-friendly. You will get to understand and use it soonLearning Python would be much better and you would grow much faster. The tutorials for their use are very easy and let you perform bulk tasks by making your own botting scripts very easily.

YouTube Services Bots/Exchangers

You can run social exchanges/bots for YouTube for your own channel or to sell to others. This is highly profitable if you can amass good amount of points and sell to others. People are always looking to buy likes, subscribers and especially views. I personally use YTMonster for views, YouLikeHits for subscribers. I use three services due to their efficiency and cheapness in their provided specialties. It is your wish what to use. You can find the latest prices the aforementioned services are being sold for here, on TBN. Besides that they offer other social exchangers too, like Facebook, Twitter, SoundCloud etc, though they aren't that popular/beneficiary for us. Also you can mix your service with a cheap YouTube Views providing service like QQTube. It costs just $0.9/k.

Options:

Proxy/Virtual Private Network

If you have a cheap VPS and are using your method but still have spare bandwidth, you can run a software to use the VPS as a Proxy or VPN. All your applications would be running as is and you can sell the proxy for a few extra bucks. This is profitable too if you have Linux VPS and can only run few traffic exchanges and then rest of the bandwidth is being wasted.
This is also profitable if you got a free VPS or a cheap deal like a 1-cent VPS and don't know what to do.

Options:

Mining

You can mine Monero, Ethereum or any other cryptocurrency on your VPS. Most VPS Providers don't allow mining. Mining is considered CPU abuse and your VPS may go down because of it. You should verify that if your VPS supports mining.
If you go for mining, I suggest to look for high CPU/GPU power VPS.

Options:

Hacking/Brute-Force

This wouldn't directly make you money. Brute-Forcing archives and networks is a practice done by a fraction of people. They take money to crack a password and run Brute-Force on their VPS's. This may get your VPS closed. Use with high caution. Scanning ports to hack more VPS can also be done. Then they can be sold somewhere, though this kind of thing isn't allowed on TBN and you will be banned.

One way to earn $1-$100 per day:-

As said before, the earning depends on amount of VPS you possess. It can be $1 per day for a single VPS or can be $100 per day for 40-50+ VPS. Though it will take time for you to set the VPS(s) up at the starting of every month, it will be worth it.

1. Install Hitleap and Otohits Autosurfs (+Any others you want that consume less power). I assume you installed Chrome/Firefox and will run autosurfs on it too.

2. Get into 
Rogue Labs and use their bots + Use any IMacros or Python scripts for GPT/PTC. You can then sell the Gift Cards you earn or cashout the profit whatever the respective site offers.

3. Make a proxy out of your VPS and sell it as a shared proxy. You can sell on any forum.

4. If you have good computing power, run Jingling. You get a lot of traffic but most of the time, you should use it for yourself as people do not buy it. Also if you have great computing power, you can rent resources as mentioned above.

5. Use traffic for your site with any ad network plus sell the traffic. Also keep racking accounts with around 100k minutes to sell. Higher amount of minutes can also be accumulated but it may get hard to find buyers.

You can perform a couple of methods together to make enough money for starting. I didn't mention mining or hacking though you can make your own mix. I once had 100+ VPS and it took a few really boring hours to set them up but the return was pretty hefty.

The trick in the beginning should be that you at least recover what you invested, and make little profits. Invest the profits to generate more money. And you will grow.

Wednesday, 10 May 2017

The Cheapest VPS (Virtual Private Servers) on the Internet

A flawless VPS provider for botting and Traffic Exchanges. Utilizing their supervision for couple weeks until recently, and I could disclose for you that its completely great. Its extremely continuous and quick.


As you can see it is a Russian company with Russian IPs.

Features:

- You can pay even with Unverified PayPal account
- Once you pay you can easily add new payer or change existing
- It is possible to connect to your server directly from control panel via vnc in your browser
(Thats useful if you plan to change your russian IP adress
by using VPN or private PROXY)
- You can use your server for whatever you need (hosting, hosting provider, botting, TE...)
- Hosting website
- Running hosting company (host multiple sites)
- Game server
- Running TEs
- Running windows BOTs
- Running SEO software
- Mail server
- Proxy or VPN server
- Online office
- Online video studio
- FTP server
Benefits of our servers



- There are no restrictions for using any program
(can use VirtualBox or VMWare or any software)
Unlimited bandwidth
- These servers are actualy VDS(virtual dedicated server) using KVM virtualization
(meaning you can use your memory and processor power to the max)


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Monday, 10 April 2017

Jingling Complete Guide in English

Lets Start: 



Let's go, one button after another.

1/ The first and main tab. You'll use this one pretty much all the time.
2/ 2nd tab, it's point is to add link with more precise control, there you can specify a daily flow amount, that kind of things. Not really useful.
3/ 3rd tab : Involving QQ. If you ever need this, you probably can understand Chinese, and you're not reading this guide.
4/ The number of sites you can add. Based on your computer's performance. Goes between 1 and 6.
5/ The are where you'll be able to manage your links. More on that later.
6/ That button is used to add a new link into Jingling. The 2nd button next to it is to add a link with more control over flow. 2nd one is pretty useless for us as well.
7/ Random information. You don't care about this at all.

Okay. Now this should be a little more clear. Now let's talk about adding a link, and change its settings.

To add a link, you click on the button marked "6" on the previous screenshot, you past your link in, and press the OK button (it's the one on the left.).
Your site should now show up in the 5th panel.

Let's see what we got here.




1/ Edit your link button. Pretty simple.
2/ Amout of view your site got. Resets every day. Not 100% accurate.
3/ State of your link. Basically, green is good, red is bad.
4/ Use this to put a link on pause. It'll ask for a confirmation. Just press it again afterwards to restart it.
5/ Delete your link. Simple as well.
6/ Control flow based on time. This will open a window with a panel divided into 24 hours, and you'll be able to limit traffic based on hours of they day. Not that useful for most users. However, if you have to use it, it's pretty straigh forward. The buttons in the bottom are, from left to right : Save, Default, Reset, Cancel.
7/ Traffic origin configuration. Now that's a useful tab. Allows you to get traffic worldwide, from China only, or everywhere except China. More on that later too 
8/ Advanced configuration. That'll be explained aswell.

Trafic origin:

To access that, clic on the button 7 on the main tab. Here's what you get :




1/ Worldwide traffic.
2/ Both of them are Chinese only traffic.
3/ Western traffic only. This will what you'll use mostly.
4/ Custom traffic. Allow you to customize traffic, chinese regions only, so not users here.

So, if you wanna set Jingling to western traffic only, you just have to tick box 3, and save. The four buttons are, from left to right : Save, Default, Reset, Cancel.

Link configuration:

Now that the source of your traffic is configured, let's see what we got in advanced configuration. To access it, press button marked 8 on main tab.



Alright. Now it gets funny.
1/ IPV ratio : Number of subpages an IP will visit. 1:1 means it will only acces the link, and exit. 1:2 means it'll go the the link, find a subpage and clic on it. 1:3 means it will go on main link, find a subpage, clic, find a sub-subpage, and clic.
2/ That will configure the behavior of your links : The first box will behave with the IPV ratio, clicking on random links on the page. The 2nd one will reload the page only. The 3rd one will access a subpage, then open the original link again. The 4th will search for a matching subpage : you can enter what you want in the textbox, the bot will search for it, and access it if it can find it.
3/ Enable or disable popup. Enable it if you site has popups in it. If you're not sure, I'll talk about the Jingling link testing tool later on. If you have popups, you want to set it a 20%.
4/ That's the destination configuration. Used to redirect traffic after a page load. You can add up to 5 links here, and configure a % for each link.
5/ That's the referer. You can change the referer URL here. Add up to 20 links, and chose it's %. For instance, if you set 50% on twitter.com and 50% on facebook.com, you're going to have half of your traffic coming from each of these sites.

With this, you should be able to do whatever you want with Jingling. But to configure it well, you need to know how your links will behave in Jingling's software. And there's a way to know exactly that.


I/ The Jingling Traffic Wizard Tool

Not a lot of people know this, but the Jingling author released a little know to help you configure your links.
Download link

Now, the principle is pretty simple. You start it, you past your link address in the bar, and you see how it load. You can check if popups are showing, and using the little menu, you can do some cool stuff :



1/ This is used to test the automatic subpage access. Related to the first box of #2 in advanced configuration.
2/ Click on a link with specific text. See #2 4th box in advanced configuration.
3/ Reload the page test. See #2 2nd box in advanced configuration.
4/ Start the test button. Use it to start whatever test you just selected.
5/ This whole box is used to test the destination configuration. See #4 in advanced configuration.

Use this tool to play around, see what's your link behavior, and configure it properly in Jingling afterwards.


II/ Exploit Jingling​

So, depending on your configuration, you can add a different number of links in Jingling. But this can be exploited.

Before going any further, note that you can only have 6 links per IP. More than that, and they won't get into the system.

You can run more than one Jingling using Sandboxie, allowing you to get 6 links running on one computer.

To get more than 6 links, you're going to need more computers. Or a virtual machine. If you have a second computer lying around, find yourself a VPN, run it on that computer, and launch more Jingling on that.Same goes with a virtual machine.

2 Sites for Free Mobile Numbers

1. Using Vopee Mobile App

Voopee is a SIM-Free mobile provider that gives you an actual  Malaysian second mobileNumber for your current telephone without the need of an extra SIM card or cellphone.And in contrast to different apps, Voopee additionally lets in you to call and text non Voopee phone numbers. To you, and anyone that you‘re calling, Voopee works exactly like ordinarycell Services.
Developer: XOX Media
Price: Free 

2. Using Talk2 Mobile App

Talk2 allows you to own a Philippine mobile number for free so that your friends and family can call and SMS you at local prices. share your Talk2 number so that you can communicate with them whether they’re online or offline. Simply download, register and you are geared up to go. Contact Your circle of relatives even when they don’t have wifi
Price: Free+ 

6 Ways to Increase YouTube Subscribers for Free

In this article I’m going to focus on one of the best ways of consistently growing your overall view counts and that’s learning how to gradually build your subscriber base.Now success on YouTube isn’t all about having hundreds of thousands of subscribers but it’s important to keep in mind that although your videos will be watched by non-subscribers also .Studies on youtube viewership habits consistently show that subscribers will be the people who watch your videos most frequently and they’re also the people who are most likely to watch your videos all the way to,yeah that’s really really important.It means that having a good subscriber base is essential for success in your business.

So If You Want To Increase Your Subscriber Base Follow These Key Steps:

1. Make Awesome Videos Sounds 



awesome video sound


I know but basically what I’m saying here is to ensure that the production values of your videos both in terms of video and audio are extremely high ensure that your video quality is full HD. Well it that you’ve got great audio quality and that your video is interesting.Entertaining videos offer something unique and a value so try to be creative with your subject matter.Videos that provide help advice and support like tutorials and “how to” rank very well on youtube because they solve a problem that people are trying to find.A solution for likewise.Though provoking or humorous videos will have a high level of shareability.I advise scripting videos when you can in order to cut the arms and oz,these help your videos appear more professional.It’s fair to say that higher quality videos,they look great and they also receive higher number of monthly youtube subscriptions number

2. To Add a YouTube Subscription Button To Your Website



Youtube Subscriber Button


YouTube has recently released a new piece of code that allows you to add a subscription button to your blog or website.Download the code or use a similar WordPress type plugin and insert it into the sidebar of your website,That way every time someone visits your blog they will be exposed to this button and with click they can instantly subscribe to your YouTube channel it’s a free and easy way of driving more traffic to your videos.

3. Ask People To Subscribe [Call To Action Button]



Ask To Subscribe


Yes one of the best way is to get more people on board simply ask them to subscribe now.A lot of people are really uncomfortable with doing this but you know what,no sales person ever made sales by apologizing to a customer for trying to sell to them,include a call to action at the end of your video let people know when you’ll be producing your next video and what they can expect.It’s this kind of stay tuned for more approach that really works.Include an interactive on-screen annotation and make it really easy for people to subscribe

4. Use Of Custom Thumbnails



Custom Thumbnail


I have seen great engagements after changing my default thumbnail to a new attractive thumbnail.I personally Get a good attractive image and just add my title as text in that image so that users scrolling through videos can easily see what the video is about and this increasing in my views count as well as in subscribers count

5. Use Youtube Video Intros And Outros



Video Intro















Your youtube video opening and closing not only helps you to brand your youtube video/channel but also will make your video more entertaining and stylish and keeps user focused.Stylish opening and closing always helps in getting more views as well as subscribers.
You can add annotations on these outros that link to your subscribe button or you can also link them to your different videos or website

6. Make Your Channel Page More Attractive



Channel Page


Users will always visit your channel to check your other videos.A good youtube channel design attracts the users into viewing more of your videos and eventually subscribing to your account.Making a similar effect on your youtube channel that you make on your blog is always a good idea to ensure that user can trust your account and keep watching your videos

YouLikeHits Bot Autopilot Earning (Auto-Update)


To use it make sure you sign up here. This is important. Now the bot,  


Adds thousands of YLH points with just few clicks, no captchas, no babysitting, no hidden web browsers etc. It is pure code saving Your resources, CPU and bandwidth 

YLH.bot key features:

  • 6 modules: Website views, YouTube plays, SoundCloud plays, Twitter followers and Google+
  • Bypass Captchas
  • Random delays between actions
  • VPS mode, bot can run 24/7 without user interaction
  • Detects if there is no more links and wait 1-2 minutes
  • AutoUpdate, you won’t miss new features
  • HTTP requests based, save your bandwidth (thousands of hits takes just few MB)

Make $100 per day with VPS (METHODS)

The Well Known Method: PTP (Paid to Promote)

PTP is the most used method to earn. You earn by running traffic exchange on your VPS day and night and than promote a special link.
I will not elaborate on it as many PTP die soon, so it gets harder to keep the guide updated.
PTP with rate of $2/1000 impressions are also high paying.

Selling Accounts

You can keep running HitLeap or OTOHits on your VPS. They both provide High Quality views. You can make a couple of accounts, earn minutes/points on them and sell them here. You can do this with any traffic exchange. The sites listed above are merely examples.

Options:
10kHits
WebSyndic

Selling/Using Traffic

Instead of selling whole accounts, you can just earn minutes/points on one account. After you accumulate a lot of points then you can sell views/traffic here on TBN or anywhere else. $0.3/1000 views is the rate starting price but it is all up to your wish.

You can also use some of the traffic to send views to your own site. For Example, I use A-Ads on one of my sites which receives decent traffic. But I also send some traffic from myself. It pays in BTC only everyday and you don't even need to sign up. So I earn 0.0001-0.01 BTC everyday. Though it isn't my main income, it is a good method for passive earning. I can then use that spare BTC to buy more VPS and earn more multiplying my earnings exponentially.

Traffic for YouTube can also be used but most traffic exchanges fail in that arena. WebSyndic though works better and delivers considerably.

Options:
HitLeap
OTOHits
10kHits
WebSyndic

Renting resources

You can run a software which utilize your idle system resources and gives you money. One of the most famous one isSlicify. A lot of VPS Providers prohibit it but you can use it. I recommend not to store your personal data in it as someone can get access to it. Another one is the recently launched Ziddu Pay App. Another famous one is theGomezPeerZone Client. They have been paying via PayPal and have decent payment proofs.

Running 1 VPS may not profit that much but running 25+ VPS is very profitable when you combine the above methods with it and run simultaneously.

Reselling

This is only profitable if you buy VPS in bulk. Suppose you bought a VPS for $4 for 1 month, you can sell it for $5 for 20 days (If its Worth It) and easily make back the money you invested. After 20 days, you can use it for yourself by using it for any of the methods listed here. You can resell ProfitServer VPS here on TBN, any forum, personal website or anywhere else. They are cheap, so you have a scope for more profit. You may also search for a small scale company or startup who needs VPS's and you may get a contract with them thus leaving you with great profits which you can either spend or buy more VPS.

Maybe you got your hands on a method for trial VPS like Amazon and Azure, you can sell them for short duration here if you aren't sure of their legitimacy or how long they will last.

Hosting

You can either host your own site or sell someone hosting on your server. This is really done only by the people who have good knowledge of languages and computers. It would not directly profit you, but you can show ads on your site (If it is popular enough) or you can sell hosting (If you have enough resources).
You can host faucets and display ads from from A-Ads and other Bitcoin Advertising Networks. Thus you earn in BTC and spend BTC with an increasing profit with complete anonymity.

Botting


You can run different types of bots of different types of sites. The benefit of these is that you can run a lot of bots in the background while performing other things. a lot of good bots are available here on TBN. Again, this will not directly profit you. You can run traffic exchanges with these bots . You can run the Rogue Bots which will bring humongous money in exchange for what you put in it. For more inquiry, contact Rogue.

The most easy method to automate sites like GPT and PPC is to use IMacros. Its very easy to use and learn and is noob-friendly. You will get to understand and use it soon. The tutorials for its use are very easy and lets you perform bulk tasks by making your own botting scripts very easily.

YouTube Services Bots/Exchangers


You can run social exchanges/bots for YouTube for your own channel or to sell to others. This is highly profitable if you can amass good amount of points and sell to others. People are always looking to buy likes, subscribers and especially views. I personally use YTMonster for views, YouLikeHits for subscribers and EnhanceViews for likes. I use three services due to their efficiency and cheapness in their provided specialties. It is your wish what to use. You can find the latest prices the aforementioned services are being sold for here, on TBN. Besides that they offer other social exchanging too, like Facebook, Twitter, Soundcloud etc, though they aren't that popular.

Options:
YTMonster
YouLikeHits (There is a working bot for it, here)
Enhanceviews
AddMeFast

Proxy/Virtual Private Network

If you have a cheap VPS and are using your method but still have spare bandwidth, you can run a software to use the VPS as a Proxy or VPN. All your applications would be running as is and you can sell the proxy for a few extra bucks. This is profitable too if you have Linux VPS and can only run few traffic exchanges and then rest of the bandwidth is being wasted.
This is also profitable if you got a free VPS or a cheap deal like a 1-cent VPS and don't know what to do.

Mining

You can mine Bitcoin, Dogecoin or any other cryptocurrency on your VPS. Most VPS Providers don't allow mining. Mining is considered CPU abuse and your VPS may go down because of it. You should verify that if your VPS supports mining.
If you go for mining, I suggest to look for high CPU/GPU power VPS.

Hacking/Brute-Force

This wouldn't directly make you money. Brute-Forcing archives and networks is a practice done by a fraction of people. They take money to crack a password and run Brute-Force on their VPS's. This may get your VPS closed. Use with high caution. Scanning ports to hack more VPS can also be done. Then they can be sold somewhere, though this kind of thing isn't allowed on TBN and you will be banned.

One way to earn $1-$100 per day:-

As said before, the earning depends on amount of VPS you possess. It can be $1 per day for a single VPS or can be $100 per day for 40-50+ VPS. Though it will take time for you to set the VPS(s) up at the starting of every month, it will be worth it.

1. Install Hitleap and Otohits Autosurfs (+Any others you want that consume less power). I assume you installed Chrome/Firefox and will run autosurfs on it too.

2. Get into Rogue Club and use their bots + Use any IMacros for GPT/PTC. You can then sell the Gift Cards you earn or cashout the profit whatever the respective site offers.

3. Make a proxy out of your VPS and sell it as a shared proxy. You can sell on any forum.

4. If you have good computing power, run Jingling. You get a lot of traffic but most of the time, you should use it for yourself as people do not buy it. Also if you have great computing power, you can rent resources as mentioned above.

5. Use traffic for your site with any ad network plus sell the traffic. Also keep racking accounts with around 100k minutes to sell. Higher amount of minutes can also be accumulated but it may get hard to find buyers.

You can perform a couple of methods together to make enough money for starting. I didn't mention mining or hacking though you can make your own mix. I once had 100+ VPS and it took a few really boring hours to set them up but the return was pretty hefty.

The trick in the beginning should be that you at least recover what you invested, and make little profits. Invest the profits to generate more money. And you will grow.